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From: ncrdrg | Posted: 9/3/2002 5:36:44 PM | Message Detail

Looks great Morgoth. Oh, no worry Solar, we're still reading your topics. I prefer the 2nd one but that might just be me.
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From: Jjukil | Posted: 9/3/2002 9:01:58 PM | Message Detail

I'm still here too, of course. =) I'll stay on till the bitter end, no question. To the death!! <g>
And you're not the only one to prefer the second chart, Ncr.
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From: Ringworm | Posted: 9/3/2002 10:49:59 PM | Message Detail

I still read this for now (don't think it'll last much longer though, I suggest you archive it ASAP if you want to keep the info). I probably prefer the second design of the two.
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From: solarshadow | Posted: 9/3/2002 11:53:13 PM | Message Detail

I think I prefer the second chart as well. The first one looks slicker in a way, but the second seems more functional. And I like King Morgoth's too. It's so difficult to decide...

Oh well, I'm not going to decide until tomorrow anyway. :)
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From: NeoElfboy | Posted: 9/4/2002 1:15:58 AM | Message Detail

I'm also staying on to the end, of course.

Hmm... in case of sudden disappearance of this Board, it would be a good idea to archive this topic. It would make a good addition to the website, I think.

My tremendous applause to you as always, Solar.

~NeoElfboy
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From: ncrdrg | Posted: 9/4/2002 5:41:33 AM | Message Detail

In case of a sudden disappearance of the boards before you archive it..ive archived it roughly on wordpad. Ncrdrg@aol.com if ya ever want it.
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From: solarshadow | Posted: 9/5/2002 1:42:46 AM | Message Detail

About 20 minutes before the final poll closed I saved every page of this topic, just in case. :) And I recently saved some of the stuff that's been posted since then. I have no interest in archiving the whole thing necessarily, unless that's something you guys would like to see. I might post my recent analyses up with the previously saved few, but other than that I don't expect to do much with this topic. Unless there's a specific request.

I've been short on time lately, but I've got the Contest Averages reformatted now. Due to popular opinion, formatting option #2 won out. The only major update I have planned for the future is to include the seriously impressive results that King Morgoth collected for the final poll. Those will be up in some shape or form eventually. For now I've stuck a link to his page on the site so that those who haven't seen it yet will be able to find it.

Other than that, I think I'm finally done. =)

Bananaquest: I'm not sure where I'll go once this board shuts down. I expect I'll take a break from the message boards for awhile, then appear infrequently at various game boards when an exciting new game is released, and seldom be heard from again... until the Summer 2003 Contest message board. ;)
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From: Bananaquest | Posted: 9/5/2002 1:54:30 AM | Message Detail

Other than that, I think I'm finally done. =)

Bananaquest: I'm not sure where I'll go once this board shuts down. I expect I'll take a break from the message boards for awhile, then appear infrequently at various game boards when an exciting new game is released, and seldom be heard from again... until the Summer 2003 Contest message board. ;)

That's alright. With that huge amount of time spent on stats since Day 1, you needed a well-deserved break. Kudos for staying up late getting all the data organized, which is a lot of work. At least you have your website up, which I'll be looking at deeply with great interest for the next couple of days.

If there's another major contest, rest assured that I'll be back in action. Take care, solarshadow.
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From: MMXcalibur | Posted: 9/5/2002 7:51:47 AM | Message Detail

*stands and appluads for everyone involved in the stat gathering*
TAKE A BOW!!!
*tosses roses at solarshadow on stage*
HERE HERE!!!!
:D
Great job all tourney long!
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 9/5/2002 9:15:39 PM | Message Detail

I don't know if there are still people left here but I'll post anyway....
http://www.geocities.com/kingmorgoth/summercontest/characters.html

Some people might find these interesting, they are tables about how the different characters performed in different aspects of the contest (total votes, average votes per battle, Average Vote %, Total Vote Differential, Average Vote Differential) and the results are quite interesting. The tables might not be perfect but they give quite a good idea of how the characters really performed (i.e. Kirby is ranked 25th overall even though he lost his first match, Scorpion is 15th even if he made the quarter-finals, and so on...)

The results are not biased by my tastes and are not scientific in any way, they are purely mathematical and entirely based on the fives categories I named higher.

And I say it again, THEY AREN'T PERFECT.....Ryu is 10th overall and Samus is 13th overall.....whatever ;)
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 9/5/2002 9:19:22 PM | Message Detail

Oh, btw you can put as many of those tables as you wish on your site Solar. I wouldn't have done this if you hadn't worked day and night on your stats for the past two months ;)
Congrats again for all your great and highly appreciated work!
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From: NeoElfboy | Posted: 9/5/2002 9:25:16 PM | Message Detail

Interesting stats, Morgoth. Nice work.

~NeoElfboy
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From: Samberdog | Posted: 9/5/2002 11:14:36 PM | Message Detail

Solar: More great stuff!

King Morgoth: Very cool lists. Poor Ms. Pacman...
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From: Jjukil | Posted: 9/5/2002 11:17:41 PM | Message Detail

I agree, that's an awesome chart. It does a good job of averaging out each character's performances. Ryu had a blowout before his respectable loss, while Samus couldn't manage one and once drew to a tie. Still, it does seem odd, for some reason, that he ended up higher on the charts.... ;)
If Solar doesn't put it up, and you don't plan on keeping it on the server, I'd love to give it a good home. =)

One thing I would like to see on your site from this topic, Solar, are your analysis posts. They were good stuff, and unlike us, you did a long one for every later match.

(I think of this now because I just finished updating my own site, which now has comments for every round posted.... </plug>)
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From: Jjukil | Posted: 9/7/2002 11:39:11 PM | Message Detail

One last bump before the board closes. For old times' sake. ^_^
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From: Bananaquest | Posted: 9/7/2002 11:47:14 PM | Message Detail

Bump for solarshadow, during the final moments of this great board.
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From: solarshadow | Posted: 9/8/2002 12:48:38 AM | Message Detail

Sorry I've been too busy to post lately. I'm taking a second to squeeze this in out of fear that it may be my last opportunity before the board disappears.

Very cool stuff with the stats, King Morgoth. I was working on some of those myself but didn't get a chance to finish them. Of course, I was only doing total votes, average votes, and average percentage, so your massive ranking system trumps that. :) I might suggest that you include more percentage categories in your overall rankings chart (you've got 4 for votes and only 1 for percentage). Like: Total Percentage, Total Percentage Differential, and Average Percentage Differential. I realize those categories are redundant and will look just like the Average Vote Percentage, but the inclusion of them may balance the Overall Rankings a little and perhaps give us a top 10 that doesn't include Ryu. ;) Also, I seem to have gotten some different numbers than you, particularly in the average vote percentage category. That seems odd. Maybe I'd better check mine again. Anyway, great work. That chart is a lot of fun.

I'd like to quickly thank everybody one last time for making this topic and the stats website a success. Thank you for your support. In particular, thanks to Kirby Still On Top, Jjukil, and NeoElfboy for helping out in the beginning and making this all possible. Without their encouragement and support this topic would never have survived. And I'd also like to give particular thanks to King Morgoth, Samberdog, and Ringworm for their continued support and contributions. You guys helped make it all worthwhile.

P.S. Visit Jjukil's archive site. It rules. :)
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